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Flexible Solutions International [FSI] Conference call transcript for 2023 q1


2023-05-16 13:30:08

Fiscal: 2023 q1

Operator: Good day, everyone and welcome to today's Flexible Solutions International First Quarter 2023 Financials Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, you will have the opportunity to ask questions during the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please note this call maybe recorded. I’ll be standing by if you should need any assistance. It's now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Mr. Dan O'Brien. Please go ahead.

Dan O'Brien: Thanks James. Good morning everybody. I'm Dan O'Brien, CEO of Flexible Solutions. Safe harbor provision. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 provides a safe harbor for forward-looking statements. Certain of the statements contained herein, which are not historical facts are forward-looking statements with respect to events, the occurrence of which involve risks and uncertainties. These forward-looking statements may be impacted either positively or negatively by various factors. Information concerning potential factors that could affect the company is detailed from time-to-time in the company's reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Welcome to the FSI conference call for first quarter 2023. I'd like to speak first regarding our company condition and our product lines along with what we think might occur in Q2 and Q3 2023. Afterwards, I will comment on our financials. NanoChem division. NCS represents approximately 70% of FSI's revenue. This division makes thermal polyaspartic acid called TPA for short, a biodegradable polymer with many valuable uses. NCS also manufactures SUN 27 and N Savr 30, which are used to reduce nitrogen fertilizer loss from soil. In 2022, NCS started food grade toll production operations using the spray dryer that we installed over the last several years. TPA is used in agriculture to significantly increase crop yield. It works by slowing crystal growth between fertilizer ions and other ions in the soil, resulting in the fertilizer remaining available longer for the plant to use. TPA is also a biodegradable way of treating oilfield water to prevent pipes from plugging with mineral scale. TPA's effect is prevention of scale for minerals that are part of the water fraction of oil as it exits the rock formation. Preventing scale keeps the oil recovery pipes from clogging. TPA is also sold as a biodegradable ingredient cleaning products for certain food uses and as a water treatment chemical. SUN 27 and N Savr 30. Nitrogen conservation products. Nitrogen is a critical fertilizer that can be loss through bacterial breakdown, evaporation and soil runoff. SUN 27 is used to conserve nitrogen from attack by soil bacterial enzymes that cause evaporation, while N Savr 30 is effective at reducing nitrogen loss from leaching. Food products. Our Illinois plant is food grade inspected and we've got our FDA number. We've commercialized on food grade product based on polyaspartates that was developed fully in-house. We have a pipeline of additional products in development that are either our ideas, oil production of outside ideas, or a mixture where an outside idea is being optimized by our team. NCS will focus on food products equally with our other market verticals because we have determined that this is an area with large markets that we're skilled in servicing and where we can obtain good margins. The ENP division, ENP represents most of our other revenue. It's focused on sales into the greenhouse turf and golf markets as opposed to our NCS sales, which are into row crop agriculture. The opening of the economy after the pandemic has affected ENP sales into the home gardening market especially home cannabis. Still expect revenue growth in 2023 at-close to historic rates, but with the growth more likely in the second half of the year. Our Florida LLC investment, the LLC was profitable in 2022 as a whole and again in Q1. Company’s focused on international sales into multiple countries all of which face different issues and respond in varied ways. Revenue was very strong in 2022 and we expect more top-line growth in 2023. However, the LLC remains exposed to high cost of goods, while experiencing difficulty passing all the costs -- cost to customers. As a result, margins are compressed and earnings may not reach historical levels in the near-term although we do expect an improvement compared to 2022. Our sales to the LLC continue to grow and we are able to retain a positive margin. Our mergers with Lygos did not proceed. On April 18, 2022 FSI and Lygos announced their intent to merge subject to shareholder approval. Merger was not completed by the end date of the agreement September 30, 2022 and did not close. Strategic investment in Lygos. In December 2020, we invested $500,000 in Lygos in return for equity. We made a second investment in June 2021 for $500,000 and then again in equity. Lygos is using these investments towards development of a microbial route to aspartic acid using sugar as a feedstock. FSI will be the major user of aspartic acid derived this way and believes that sustainable aspartic acid will allow us to obtain large new customers and develop valuable new products that are both -- at both biodegrade and come from sustainable sources. We remain optimistic that we can continue to work with Lygos in ways that don't involve merging. FSI is dedicated to the goal of sustainability, while finding a route to the goal that is profitable for us for our suppliers and for Lygos. Q2 and Q3, agricultural products were not as strong in Q1 2023 as they were in Q1 2022. We feel that some customers who normally buy in Q1 are waiting until Q2 to make orders. However, we still feel the agricultural sales for the first half will exceed the same period in 2020. Oil, gas and industrial sales of TPA had increased sales throughout 2022. This was driven by shortfalls of competing products and high oil prices. Sales are expected to remain steady in 2023, but with the possibility of temporary reductions if customers reduce inventory or do maintenance that was delayed in past years. Tariffs. Since 2019 several of our raw materials imported from China have included a 25% tariff. International customers are not charged to tariffs because we've applied for the export rebates available to recover tariffs. Tariffs are affecting our cost of goods, our cash flow and our profits negatively. Rebates take many years to arrive. We submitted our initial applications 4.5 years ago. Total dollar amount due back to us as well in excess of $1 million we intend to persevere until we succeed in recovering our fund. Shipping and inventory. Ocean shipping from Asia to the US and ocean shipments from the US to international ports are back to pre-COVID speed, but they've settled at higher prices. Land Transport inside the US is continuing to stabilize. Coped with shipping issues last year by ordering far ahead and carrying additional inventory, resulting in some costs that we were unable to pass on to our customers. In 2023, we hope to begin reducing our inventory to a more normal level and replacing expensive raw materials with less expensive ones. As this proceeds margins may stabilize at slightly higher levels. Raw material prices do not appear to be reverting to historic levels. Instead they seem to be stabilizing at a new base level that's also experiencing inflation. Passing price increases even small inflation-related ones along to customers can take several months. Not always possible, and it may result in constrained margins throughout the year. We still believe that, revenue, operating cash flow and profit can grow strongly in 2023, but inflationary forces may keep us in a position where selling prices like cost increases some of the time. Financial results. We're reasonably pleased with the results for Q1 2023. Year-over-year revenue and operating cash flow were down possible that certain customers had inventory to work through. And it's very likely that some agricultural sales were delayed into Q2. Profits were negatively affected by product mix cost of goods and reduced sales volume. We estimate that year-over-year growth in revenue cash flow and profits will continue in 2023, with the increases likely to incur three and four. Sales for the quarter decreased 9% to $9.85 million compared with $10.78 million – Profits $884,000 or $0.07 a share compared to $1.53 million or $0.12 a share in Q1 2022. Operating cash flow. This non-GAAP number is useful to show our progress of the noncash items removed for clarity and in Q1 2023 it was $1.73 million or $0.14 a share down from $2.47 million or $0.20 a share in the 2022 period. Long-term debt, we're continuing to pay down our long-term debt according to the terms of the loan. We've consolidated all of our debt for ENP and NCS with the Stock Yards Bank. It's resulted in increased lines of credit with lower interest rates and reduced interest rates on our long-term debt. At the same time, we bought all the units we did not already own in ENP Peru Investments LLC and guaranteed the mortgage held by the LLC. The LLC owns five acres and 60,000 square feet building on the Southwest corner of our Peru, Illinois factory. This action returns full ownership of the 20 acre -- original 20-acre parcel and 120,000 square feet of buildings to FSI with a mortgage at favorable terms. Now working capital, adequate for all our purposes. It's increasing continuously as we book to retained profit from sales. Our lines of credit with Stock Yards Bank, our subsidiaries are sufficient and we're confident that we can execute our plans with our existing capital. Special dividend, company declared a special dividend on April 13, which will be paid today shareholders of record April 28. We are pleased and proud to be able to return capital to shareholders this way. This is of course a special dividend will not be repeated until management and the Board are sure that paying another special dividend and be done without hurting the forward progress of FSI. Text of this speech will be available as an 8-K filing on www.sec.gov by Wednesday May 17. And e-mail or fax copies can be requested from Jason Bloom jason@flexiblesolutions.com. Thank you. The floor is open for questions. And James can you set everybody up please?

Operator: Certainly. [Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question today from William Gregozeski with Greenridge Global.

Operator: Next, we'll hear from Tim Clarkson with Van Clemens.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] And it appears we have no further questions at this time. I will now turn the program back over to Mr. O'Brien for any additional closing remarks.

Dan O'Brien: Thanks James. Well, thanks everybody. Appreciate you coming to listen today, and look forward to talking with you again in about three months, and we're going to work hard. Hopefully, we have some good news for you. Take care. Bye now.

Operator: This does conclude today's program. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.